It couldn't be more of a disgusting or more cowardly move.
The Con media which despite its best efforts has failed to damage Justin Trudeau's popularity, or destroy our hopes for a better future.
Is now trying to do both by going after his children.
The CBC led the way with this breathless "scoop."
Canadian taxpayers are paying the wages of two nannies hired to care for the children of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his wife, Sophie Grégoire-Trudeau, according to cabinet orders posted online.
The disclosure comes after an election campaign where Trudeau repeatedly attacked the Conservatives' enhanced universal child care benefit, or UCCB, and income splitting for families, arguing rich families like his and former prime minister Stephen Harper's didn't need taxpayers' help.
Which even though it conflates a tax measure, with the household needs of a prime minister and his young family, was promoted by Hannah Thibedeau on Power and Politics in such a hysterical manner...
I really had to wonder whether she was losing her mind, and what she was doing splashing around in the deep end of the pool.
And of course the corporate stooges from Postmedia were close behind. Grinding out one story after the other.
Every prime minister with a young family in living memory has had such help. The job is 24/7, the demands incessant, the travel constant. In most public circumstances, both the PM and his wife are expected to attend, as Trudeau and Sophie Grégoire-Trudeau have done on their recent international swing. There would be harrumphing if this were not the case.
Forced to admit that the practice is nothing new. But making it only too clear what this is really all about...
Justin Trudeau’s party won 39.5 per cent of the popular vote Oct. 19. That means six of every 10 eligible voters chose another party with another leader.
There’s a great big chunk of country out there, in other words, that is not gleefully embracing the Liberal restoration, or its smug-sounding slogan that “Canada is back,” as though it ever went away.
Just another desperate attempt to try to bring down the high flying Trudeau.
Even though the latest polls show that his support is now close to 50 per cent.
And as this poll from Power and Politics, which left Thibedeau looking even more like an idiot, also suggests...
This isn't just about Justin. And it is about taking our Canada back.
The hapless stooges in the MSM can't seem to understand that after ten years of Stephen Harper and his foul regime, many Canadians are desperate for hope and optimism.
By inventing a mini-scandal to attack Trudeau, they will be seen to be attacking those hopes.
And by trying to hurt him by attacking his perfectly reasonable childcare arrangements, and his wife for being a young and modern woman, they will only end up hurting themselves...
It really is pathetic. For ten years the rats in the Con media betrayed the Canadian people, by collaborating shamelessly with the Harper regime.
But if they think they going to get away with that again, or drag us into their sewer again, and fail to understand their own people.
They will almost certainly be taught a lesson.
And it will be a painful one...
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WHAT THE FUDDLE DUDDLE HAPPENED TO CBC!!!!!!! Hannah needs to find a REAL story to debate!!!!!! When you have the morally depleted Stockwell Day on the show spewing crap you know your show is failing!!!!!!!!!! MONEY SPEND IN A BETER WAY THEN PAYING FOR Hitler Harper's hair stylist and make up!!!!!!!!! That was a waste.....Must have spent a bunch of taxpayer dollars to paste and hide the growths on his face!!!!!!!!!! Power and Politics sucks!!!!!!! We need evan back!!!!
All I can do is simply shake my head!
hahahahha...big scoop.....Power&Politics...Jeeeez they might as well have Ezra Levant in the seat.....
Raitt and Rona and their fake disgust about tax payer dollars....why it's enough to bring a tear to a glass eye...
That story on the cbc website generated over 4000 comments....who the hell has that much time on their hands to write or read 4000 comments??...I'll tell ya who...crazy bored out of their mind people..Like reformacons...hahahahha...
I am a supporter of the CBC and it has always been my favourite means of communication for news etc. for years! However, if the Bulls.....t continues, I will have no choice but to withdraw my monthly donation.......and send it to Little Warriors at the BeBrave Ranch instead!
The CBC board of directors consists of 9 out of 11 Harper appointees. Most of them run for another 2 or 3 years so it will be a while before the Conservative Broadcasting Corporation returns to a neutral or slightly liberal reporting stance. Conservative legacy issues abound at the management level throughout the whole public structure.
RT
Taxpayers pay for the staff at 24 Sussex. T'was ever thus.
Personally, I think that Trudeau and his wife can afford to pay for their own nannies, because they'd still be better off than the vast majority of Canadians are. But it is not the place of the pro-Harper media to make a scandal of this.
Taxpayers paid for Harper's idiotic "24/7" cult-of-personality drivel. They didn't appear too incensed by that.
Shameful for CBC. It shows they have not understand what happened on Oct 19. We voted for change not only for government. We voted for general change including focusing on news that matter and have substance. So far CBC have not caught up with this and insist on news for the spectacle covered with partisanship, and not relevance beyond that.
The CBC is seems to be getting worse and worse these days. What they are presenting is not news, nor a discussion of serious issues. The self righteousness of which they talk about Trudeau's nannies paid for by the tax payer reveals once again their vindictiveness toward Trudeau.Is it that they have Harper CONs on their board and take their orders from them. They are funded primarily by the Canadian taxpayer and I for one am tired of hearing their CON biased commentaries. They are a public broadcaster, who are supporting a small percentage of the Canadian public, the CONs. Maybe it's time for us to rid of them. They've lost their moral compass and have forgotten whose paying their salaries.
It's time for the new government to take back the CBC..long past time..
Isn't this the same MSM that revels in the perks of power? Especially of those whose (CEOs mainly) asses they kiss?
Yup that would be them.
Even if Mary Poppins herself became the Trudeau's nanny, the MSM would freak. "OMG! Unsafe Umbrella Flying Nanny Creates Havoc Thru Song And Dance! Orgies With Chimney Sweeps!"
Yes, indeed!!! We do need Evan back. Rosemary is a total failure and Hanna is no better.
But unfortunately, Trudeau said SEVERAL times on the campaign trail that rich families such as his and Harper's do not need taxpayer's help with child tax credits, etc.
I think Trudeau should pay the nanny wages out of his own pocket. It DOES make him look like a hypocrite if he doesn't do it. I believe he can still claim their wages on his income tax.
It's about what I'd expect from the Con media. A little disappointing to see that same greasy tone aped in the CBC, though. On the bright side, just as Canadians ignored the Con media endorsements of Harper, I think it will end up backfiring on them as you suggest, Simon.
Even the Dippers are getting in on it. It must be a welcome break from licking their wounds, especially given where the NDP wounds are located.
Does anyone know what arrangements were made for Harper's family? Or did Lauren just have to remain at home throughout? And 11 bucks sucks!
I have heard this idiotic 'story' on CBC news 2.5 times now. The 0.5 comes from me turning it off as it started up on the radio this morning. I must say the CBC has managed to make total fools of themselves.
For all CBC new writers, readers and producers, repeat after me, "The Prime Minister of Canada is not a wealthy private individual".
Repeat until you understood the significance of the word private in this context. Feel free to consult a dictionary.
The CBC is still being run by Con stooges, that's what's wrong with it.
This story is disgusting and is an absolute low for reporting in Canada.
It's embarrassing and the entire management of the CBC should be fired along with the reporters that continue to be the narrators they are. Use the money to hire five times as many proper journalism students who know WTF they're doing.
I imagine the security detail would be pisses off if Sophie found baby sitters by tearing tabs off o poster at the grocery store. They probably demand full time people they can vet with a security check.
Wow, even the CBC has turned on the little prince. I wonder where he will be in a few short years, other than a laughing stock.
I just ran into an OT but eerily similar set of comments about the MSM in the UK and some of the reactions they are getting to Corbyn taunting. It looks like the UK media like the Cdn media has not grasped that some of the rules have changed.
From http://blog.danieldavies.com/
The British political media establishment know one thing about Corbyn - they know that they didn't see him coming, they don't understand him and he appears to have made the last twenty years' investment in intellectual and social capital with New Labour obsolete.
didn't harper travel with excessive rcmp nannies disquised as security?
i mean two nannies compared to a half dozen head jacked officers?
the ultimate cool
would be to find out
those nannies are shaolin masters just in case
What bothers me the most about this is the dishonesty rampant within it. Trudeau was campaigning against a tax policy for a whole class of our citizenry, of which he was a part of, getting tax dollars that could and should be better spent on those that needed it more than those in his economic class. We are talking about many millions to tens of millions of tax dollars here, not a small number, and therefore a significant policy issue. He used himself and Harper as examples of people who did not need that tax break and that his government's policy would not be to support such, instead taking it away from that top economic bracket and applying it towards those that needed it more in the lower income classes/brackets. This is called being responsible with taxpayer dollars to get the most effective and needed results with it, and used to be considered a good thing in this nation.
This is a perfectly valid argument to be making, and the NDP are being butthurt about because they decided to embrace this UCCB element of the Harper government as part of their own approach to childcare as well as promising that $15 a day daycare, and of course they can never seem to pass up a chance to try and denigrate Trudeau on the personal level as opposed to actual policy grounds here, but that is something we have alas come to expect from the Mulcair NDP.
Now, this is a legitimate disagreement on tax policy, this is NOT Trudeau saying under no circumstances would he ever accept any legitimate public funds should he become PM that fall under legitimate staffing issues for a sitting PM, which in the case of someone with small children does include child care. It is not like being PM is the same as any other job in this nation, including even up to Ministers (Raitt trying to equate her responsibilities last night with Trudeau's as PM was more than a little offensive even by Raitt's standards for me), since a head of government and in many ways the de facto head of State (yes de jure he is not, and he makes "recommendations" to the de jure Head of State for Canada, but the reality is the bulk of that work beyond the merely symbolic is also a function of the role of PM in our system, personally I would prefer having some of that HoS work moved back to the de jure one, but that is an issue for another time and place) has truly unique non-stop responsibilities no one else has.
So watching the level of dishonest equating of a tax policy issue where Trudeau was using himself as an example (along with Harper) and conflating/equating that with a perk of becoming a PM, a perfectly legitimate perk at that, as somehow they same thing because both are funded by tax dollars is a really irritating thing for me. I get the optics on this aren't the best, but any actual contradiction with Trudeau's past positions, any actual dishonesty by Trudeau, that is clearly not there, and is a manufactured bogus "scandal" by his political rivals/opponents/enemies (I miss the days when I didn't need to add the word enemies, but alas there clearly are still those that see things this way on the right, and I'm starting to fear also on the left too) and media who are either partisans themselves or else looking for conflict to sell their work with (which is the inherent media bias I always watched out for long before the more overt political bias started to show up).
What this is not is legitimate, and the fact it seems to be getting the oxygen it is when we are still dealing with the immediate aftermath of the Harperium and the devastating wreckage it has left in its wake, including things like those 49 long term appointments getting little to no coverage is very disturbing and worrisome, and well one has to ask why.
I commend and laud your comment. well stated. can you post this on today cbc article online
Anon@3:42PM
I would except I do not actually have access, I never signed up with the CBC site. So if you want to copy and paste it over, feel free, so long as you either do so in complete form or if you excerpt you make it very clear that you have done so (as in start/end the excerpted parts with ellipses, which if you need defined is "..." to show there was material before and after it either within a sentence construct or to indicate prior sentences or additional ones, because context matters in definition and meaning and needs always to be considered and acknowledged) and where plus provide a link back to this comment, and that you make sure to accredit the original work to "Scotian". I am very touchy about proper accreditation and about honesty in quoting, but aside from that I generally feel that once I write something in a public domain/setting it is available for anyone to read/use/copy so long as they follow those basic respect rules for doing so. Aside from that, fill your boots, and thanks for the compliment.
Soon as I saw this yesterday, have been all over social media with the following message (and variations):
Shame on you CBC for reporting on non news, and trying to inflate an issue. Canadians overwhelmingly supported the new PM in the last election. We voted for a young dynamic PM who has kids, and a wife with a life outside out diapers.
http://operationmaple.ca/the-stephen-harper-non-answer-generator-part-5
At the top of this page (part 5) is a photo of what Harper looks like without his makeup.
These so called nannies are the ones that were hired by Trudeau to keep their home clean and act like nannies when Justin and his wife are travelling, like when he brought his wife with him to meet the queen. Does that sound reasonable? It does to me.
I like the way you look at things, Montreal Simon - a fresh perspective, and radical. Let's also bring radical back. It doesn't mean extreme. In fact, radical simply means honest and sincere, as in democratic and respect for human rights.
As for Hannah, maybe she is just playing a Colbert?
hi anon...I don't know what has happened to the CBC. Justin Trudeau just saved them from almost certain destruction, and yet they seem to take pleasure in attacking him in a totally unbalanced manner. But what I do know is that it is a problem that starts at the top. And that as we take back our Canada we need to take the CBC back as well...
hi anon...yes it really has been a ghastly spectacle, Raitt and Ambrose shedding crocodile tears about tax payer dollars, when nobody wasted as many of them than the Harper Cons.
And you're right, the Con trolls are out in force. It's a horrible sight, but remember they're only screeching like that because they're both bitter and desperate...
hi RT...it's unfortunate that the Con board at the CBC can't be dismissed immediately. But they should be made to understand that they are to make no major strategic decisions, and that they are living on borrowed time....
hi thwap...I'm sure the Trudeaus will end up paying for their nannies, and as you point out they can afford it. But to me there's a principle at stake here. If it's OK for tax payers to fund a pastry chef, why can't they fund a child care worker? Because I think that demeans the idea of child care and is an ideological position. And of course, the Cons can't claim to be concerned about waste, after they spent a billion dollars of our money promoting themselves...
hi Riggs...I agree, the CBC needs to raise its sights. They have been saved from destruction, they are going to get more money. Now they need to show us why they deserve it...
hi Pamela...I agree, I also found the way they are treating the Trudeau government to be very unfair. Jumping on them in an unseemly manner before they even get a chance to settle in to the job. And I thought they way they made a big deal out the nanny story was particularly appalling. Hannah Thibedeau seemed to think that it was a huge story, when it is a very small one, and there are many bigger ones they should be covering. I'm not giving up on them however. I know there are a lot of talented people who work there, and the problem is a management problem. We need to purge their Con board, and liberate the place along with the rest of Canada...
hi mizdarlin...I completely agree. And I happen to know a few of the young slaves who toil there, so I know they would welcome the move. Like so many other Canadian institutions, it too has been corrupted by the Harper years...
hi Dan...yes the MSM, especially the Parliamentary Press Gallery needs to have its wings clipped. They move around like a school of fish, are consumed by partisan politics, and now that they have been liberated they seem to take an indecent pleasure in biting the hand that saved them from disgracing themselves over and over again...
hi David...the problem is that people are confusing two separate issues. One is a matter of public policy involving a tax break that could cost taxpayers billions. And the other is the simple matter of what a prime minister needs to function effectively. And the fact that Trudeau is wealthy should make no difference. It's a matter of principle, and a measure of the value of child care in our society.
hi anon...yes it is disappointing to see the CBC join in the feeding frenzy. But I am encouraged by the strong reaction, and the support the Trudeaus are getting. So I really think it will backfire on the Con media. I think most decent people agree that the Cons should leave the Trudeau kids alone....
hi John...Laureen like to brag that she was a stay at home mother. But what I do know is that tax payers funded a special assistant to follow her around the world. So if it was OK for the taxpayers to pay for that, it should also be OK for them to pay for child care for the Trudeau's and their very young family....
hi Mound...yes I'm sorry to see the NDP joining in the gleeful lynch mob. I'm afraid that some of them haven't come to terms with the election result. They have become horribly bitter, and seem to care more that Justin is prime minister, than they care about the fall of the Harper regime. I can understand why they are disappointed, I also voted for the NDP. But I'm just happy that Harper was defeated, and the NDP should focus on why they did so badly, rather than echoing the Cons. For that can only damage them further....
hi jrkrideau....I share your feelings. I can't stand to watch or read about that story, and see how it is being blown out of all proportion. And you're also right to point out that it doesn't matter whether Trudeau is wealthy, it's not about him it's about the office of the Prime Minister. That point can't be hammered home enough...
hi anon...yes the CBC is still in the hands of the wrong people. And for some reason some of their journalists can't seem to understand that they don't need to pleasure the Harper Cons any longer as they have done for so many years. And you're right, the purge needs to start at the top...
hi rumleyfips...yes it is also a matter of security. The Trudeaus can't just pick up a phone and call some teenager to see if they've available. The story is absurd, and is just being used to bludgeon Justin for no good reason...
hi anon...you would probably be better off wondering where the CBC's Con managers will be in a couple of years, and where the Ambrose/Kenney/ Loser Cons will be. Because they're all living on borrowed time. While Justin Trudeau has in the space of a month become Canada's most famous Prime Minister ever. So I think he's probably going to be around for at least the next ten years. Or once he changes the electoral system, maybe forever... ;)
hi jrkrideau...the way the MSM has treated Corbyn is absolutely unbelievable. The man has been demonized even by progressive publications like the Guardian, and of course even by some of his own cabinet ministers. But the fact is he generated more excitement about Labour since the very early days of Tony Blair, attracted young people to his cause like no other candidate, and he is the future even if they can't see it....
hi lungta...good one. Yes that might work. Maybe the screeching Cons would stop screeching if they could be reassured that the nannies aren't just taking care of the children, they're protecting the Prime Minister with their Mary Poppin's umbrellas....
hi Scotian...you are absolutely right. Two separate issues are being conflated into one. One is a matter of public policy and the other simply involves the domestic arrangements the prime minister's residence. The incredibly dumb Hannah Thibedeau couldn't seem to appreciate that, and this whole episode is just a manufactured scandal of the first order. As I said in my post, the good news is that I don't think it will cost Trudeau any support. And may actually help him. But it is still sickening to see to what depths the Cons and their bought media will stoop to try to hurt him...
hi anon...good for you. Progressives need to fight back, and stop letting the Cons and their media hacks get away with murder. We have a young family living in the prime minister;s residence, it is 2015, there needs need to be recognized, and Sophie Trudeau isn't the kind of woman to stay at home in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant. And good for her....
hi Unknown...thanks, I just write things as I see them, but I'm not afraid of the word radical. I only worry that I am not radical enough, and like a good Canadian am too polite to really express how I feel. But it will take radical solutions if we are going to save this country and this planet, so I'm going to have work on that. As for Hannah, I wish I could say she was channeling Colbert, but I'm afraid that although her performance had comical elements, it was really too dumb to be truly funny....
The vapid Hannah Thibedeau and her newly "courageous" media cohorts strike again, allowing themselves to be misdirected from the scandals of Harper's "permanent appointments" or the possible $30 billion bill (up from $16 billion) for the navy's new warships. The latter story, which again proves the Conservatives are lying thugs, came out the same time as Nannygate but was sunk, shall we say, by the tidal wave of Con-driven outrage over the PM's staffing choices. If Canadian taxpayers shell out for chefs, drivers and other household assistants, child care workers should be included. Will Rona Ambrose's bull-ridin' boyfriend pay for his kids' vittles out of his own pocket when the young'uns visit the Stornoway ranch? Sure he will -- unless someone he knows high up in the CPC party can figure how to spend taxpayers' money wrongfully.
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/rona-ambrose-gets-the-key-to-stornoway/
As for the media's pushing the Nannygate theme: Having worked in the news media, I constantly remind my non-media friends and acquaintances that while a lot of nationally known reporters and pundits achieved their lofty status through hard work and extensive knowledge of government, just as many got to where they are by being newsroom politicians and ass-kissers of the highest order, and bring that scuzzy skill set to their job. Unfortunately, I have come around to the belief that most of CBC's reporters are toeing the line scrawled in the dirt by the CPC flunkies who make up the public broadcaster's board of governors. That's the only way to explain why outright hypocrites like the Raitts, Rempels and Ronas get little more than puffball questions on the talking heads shows. The Con women are just cannon fodder while the party recovers and reloads, of course. When the real race for CPC leadership begins, the cowboys from out West will ride in to take over, pushing aside their current schoolmarm mouthpieces.
(A fun drinking game would be to take a shot every time Hannah says "Take a listen." WARNING: Don't do that when any of the other CBC newswonk utters that phrase, too. You'll suffer a quick, gin-soaked death.)
Now the question is, "Did Hilary Benn's rant help or hinder Corbyn"? I don't expect that did Benn's long-term career prospects a lot of good. Any idea what his constituency is like demographically?
It may be time for Corbyn to purge some of the left-over New Labour members.
Hannah's loud delivery on this non story had me feeling embarrassed for her. Trying to keep in mind that the producers, led by the Con board of directors, are responsible for the programme, I had to use the mute button. I hope the government does change the method of selecting board members for CBC and other Crown corporations so that they truly represent Canadians.
Tell Hannah Thibedeau what you think, pro or con:
Hannah.Thibedeau@cbc.ca
and cc to:
politics@cbc.ca, thenational@cbc.ca
CBC-TV did report on the navy's new warships and the skyrocketing costs:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nsps-naval-ship-procurement-costs-1.3345435
http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2679902274
http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2679902441
Apparently they have no greater number of staff than Stephen Harper had--their roles obviously somewhat different. Or maybe SH's children weren't supervised, as when at least one inebriated underaged girl was rushed to hospital from a party at the prime minister's residence.
Trudeau's family has no more servants than Harper's family, which, unfortunately, was not mentioned in the original story.
Especially since the Trudeau family have the same number of servants, including the nannies, as Harper's family had apparently.
Your vitriole is palpable, but the fact is that the current family in the Prime Minister's residence has no more or less servants, including the nannies, as the previous Prime Minister.
Bravo Montreal Simon, The con supporters are just upset that Harper is gone, never to return. Time for a major overhaul of CBC, that bimbo Barton has been one of the most annoying, I don't even know what to call her, a real journalist would not be so pro Harper so whatever she is, she needs to be one of the first to be fired. How can all those idiots on the CBC support the man who planned to take away their livelihood?
We need CBC back, we've taken back the country so now to start weeding out all those silly people who thought Harpo was the best thing since sliced bread, thank goodness there are not that many of them.
They love to point out that Trudeau only had 39.4% of the vote, well it is more than Harper had and last week's Nanos poll showed that IF the election were held today that the cons would only have 60 seats, the ndp only TWO seats and Liberals would have the other 276, I'm going to say 275 because I doubt May would lose her one seat. Trudeau has done more good for this country in 3 weeks than Harper did in 9 years.
This is the New and better Canada and this is only the beginning! YEAH Voters for doing the correct thing!
until the cbc executive is re-populated by human canadians, not harpercons, it will continue so.
hi Kathleen...yes I had the same reaction. Hannah was far too aggressive and kept repeating the same question again and again. She seemed to think it was some kind of big scoop, and if I recall nobody mentioned that Chris Hall who was also on that panel, was commenting on his own story. I don't blame the ordinary workers at the CBC for allowing something like that to happen, I blame its rotten management....
hi D Daniels...Thank you, I too can't believe what's happening at the CBC. The Liberals have just saved them from being further mutilated by the Cons, but they seem to be bending backwards to be unfair to them. Or are playing some kind of ghastly gotcha game. But hopefully Canadians have had enough of that, and will focus on building that new and better Canada...
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