Tuesday, July 21, 2020

Poll Wars: The Scheer Nightmare Is Almost Over



Golly, what a difference a day makes. Yesterday an Abacus poll made it look like Andrew Scheer and his Cons were heading for victory in the next election.

And I really had to wonder about the mental health of many some Canadians, who could stab a decent leader like Justin Trudeau in the back, after all he has done to save them from the horrors of a murderous pandemic.

For it wasn't a pretty sight. 



But this morning I saw the new Leger poll...



And it looked so much better, and made so much more sense.

And these regional numbers were even better...



For to me they spell only one thing: M-A-J-O-R-I-T-Y.

Of course, if you're Jagmeet Singh they spell something else, something like L-O-S-E-R.



For he's STILL going nowhere.

Finally, if you're Andrew Scheer, this outrageous demand should make decent Canadians question his sanity.


Can you believe that? 

The bigot loser, who has only a month to go before he is forced to resign, wants Trudeau to resign FIRST?

But like Singh is too cowardly to bring down the government so we can have an election.

Too bad playing cheap politics during a murderous pandemic isn't a crime.

Because if it was, we would have been able to put the Ugly American in the place where he truly belongs...



And thank goodness for Justin Trudeau who is leading us to victory without EVER attacking his opponents like they have attacked him.

That's what you call class.

That's what I call Canada.... 



13 comments:

rumleyfips said...

Shugart, today, gave us a true Sir Humphry moment when he sais that their true hidden agenda had been revealed. We give then a bad option ; then we give them another bad option; then we give them an acceptable option we want.

We are lucky to be served by people like him. He didn't get where he is without learning how to deal with assholes like Petey peckerhead.

Jackie Blue said...

Nanos says Trudeau's preferred PM numbers have dropped by 4, but even that is consistent with the ARI release on his approval ratings taking a minor but not mortal hit. Abacus should be ashamed of themselves for running a push poll like they did. But what drags down the polls is not any actual evidence, but the bullshit media spin that just parrots press releases from the Cons and their useful idiot Dippers, rather than actually presenting the facts. Canada is long overdue for a Fairness Doctrine. Heavy sanctions need to be levied for not telling the truth.

Look up Kevin McCarthy, GOP congressman, and what he said about Benghazi damaging Hillary. It's all contrived, and my only gripe about Trudeau is that he is such an earnest and over-enthusiastic do-gooder he seems oblivious to their lines of attack. PMO isn't helping matters either by falling down on the job.

Ian Shugart again corroborated the PM's assertion that the recommendation came from the public service and that Trudeau had no contact with WE. He also gave a lesson in constitutional responsibility that the low-info press is likely to ignore, because it isn't sexy and doesn't confirm their narrative. Yet CTV, surprisingly, ran a less torqued headline while CBC added further to the suspicion. I have no reason to believe Vichy Kapelos won't have Scheer or Singh or some Trudeau-loathing pundit on to discredit the public service. Another hack who needs to be fired and go where she really fits in: Fox News.

Singh wants Trudeau to waive cabinet confidentiality, further demonstrating his dangerous ignorance or willful obtuseness on constitutional matters. Scheer, meanwhile, was busy interrogating all 157 Liberal MPs as to their "confidence" in Trudeau, attempting to divide the party. Then misogynistically attacking Freeland and Chagger as "Trudeau groupies" like the neanderthal he is. Blanchet seems to have wisely backed off for now, considering his own problems. It's just the Jag and Andy show competing for whose noses can grow the farthest and fastest by piling up more and more lies.

There is no new evidence likely to be introduced that contradicts this. The facts remain this decision amounts to sloppiness in the fog of chaos rather than crooked self-dealing. The numbers so far suggest that the jury is out as to whether facts matter. But all we'll get from now on are more clickbait op-eds and tangential what-ifs, like Chagger's conversation with the K-bros about an unrelated program and that Globe headline from last week about Trudeau's half brother. And an absolute circus from Brown, Krause and the K-bros.

Meanwhile, a pandemic. Did anybody forget about that?

Jackie Blue said...

Here you go Simon, more evidence that the NDP knows there's nothing here and is just abusing this for political gain. As you said the toxic Trudeau haters of the so-called progressive variety.

Singh lies about CSSG and puts up a data mining website to bamboozle students. Sandy Garossino calls him out for his bullshit.

https://twitter.com/Garossino/status/1285637601446297606

Partisan Dipper diehard backs him up and says it's fine with him, as long as Trudeau gets dragged through the gutter so that he doesn't get a majority. The NDP will do anything to be relevant. Hard to do so when you're in fourth place and senpai Justin doesn't have to notice you.

https://twitter.com/jdouglaslittle/status/1285661174890205184

So they know they're lying, they know he's innocent, and they know their rhetoric is even causing death threats to be aimed at Trudeau's family in the aftermath of someone already having tried to assassinate him. But they don't care, and they're going to keep it going as long as possible, because to crater his polling numbers means they'd get to have him by the balls in Parliament and force their agenda through.

I officially hate the NDP more than I do Cons. At least Cons are honest about being deplorable. NDP make a song and dance about being the conscience of parliament, when in reality, they're as much a bunch of lowlifes in the gutter as the CPC.

Jackie Blue said...

Simon! Get a load of July 20th Innovative Research!

https://twitter.com/CanadianPolling/status/1285964118718062592

Jackie Blue said...

Trudeau is testifying at the Benghazi star chamber! I'm so nervous. I want him to stay.

What about Morneau, is he going to resign? Apparently a lot of these kerfuffles have emerged from within his office?

I hope this is almost over. I'm just glad that so far, it hasn't moved the dial all that much.

Steve said...

wee wee, there seems to be a lot of piss in this relationship

ottlib said...

The reason why the polls are not moving is because no one besides those who already hate the PM and the Liberals care about this issue. It is summer time, when most Canadians pay even less attention to politics than usual. It is also a summer time during a global pandemic. The mood seems to be that a second wave is expected in the Fall so people are trying to squeeze as much fun time out of the summer as they can and that has enhanced their lack of interest in politics. It is by no means scientific but when I talk to friends and colleagues the issue of the virus is always the first topic of conversation and there is rarely any mention of anything to do with politics. I have had two conversations where politics has come up and both were around the government handling of the crisis. Both were positive assessments of that performance although one was grudging approval as the guy giving the positive assessment is a staunch Conservative supporter.

Then there is the notion that Canadians are smart enough to realize that things could be alot worse for alot of us without the leadership of the Federal and Provincial governments. They built up a fair amount of goodwill and it will take more than this to put a real dent in that.

As well, the only reason why this is even an issue is because of the good job the Federal government has done. The chattering classes in this country actually have to talk about something other than the virus and the government's reaction to it to provide content for their countless information channels and they substituted covering actual news for sensationalism and tabloid journalism a long time ago. The government is doing such a good job that they cannot really find a real fault to sink their teeth into so they grabbed what thin gruel was available and are running with it. Traditional media really is in a death spiral.

Mr. Trudeau and Mr. Morneau are not going anywhere. The Opposition parties and the media will keep talking about their "scandal" because that is all they have right now. Canadians are generally pleased with how the Federal government has handled the COVID crisis, so they really cannot talk about that. So, expect them to continue to beat this dead and decomposed horse until something else comes up. My guess is that something else will be the second wave which may be beginning to build, if the so far modest spikes in new infections is a harbinger of things to come.

Anonymous said...

Logic suggests that Harperites huffing and puffing about Trudeau's failure to recuse from awarding a contract to a non profit charity would backfire as it would only serve to remind Canadians what corruption and authoritarian cover ups really look like. But memories fade and thanks to social media sites such as Facebook, logic (and democracy) is caught up in a for profit coin operated laundromat.... wash / rinse / repeat. The cycle involves a) find a story with some truth in it b) politicize and exaggerate by lacing it with power words such as scandal, corruption etc. c) publish it in a "news" outlet d) post it on Facebook and let the bots and paid influencers amplify. d) Wash it back through mainstream media because its trending on Facebook and can raise ad revenue. Repeat.
The cycle is dangerous and deadly and easily broken by removing the bots and paid influencers but few appear willing to take a stand. Free speech yes but pay per click bot and mass amplification will destroy democracy.

RT

Jackie Blue said...

I don't think Morneau is a bad person, nor did he do anything nefarious. He just seems to be something of an eccentric aristocrat, who makes goof-ups or falls into traps that unfortunately the NDP/CPC coalition with help of the pliant media was able to seize on at the absolute worst time.

This paragraph from Heather Scoffield made me especially sad, because it shows that the intentions really were sincere (the road to hell...), but as to the more "controversial" aspects of using the WE Charity, Trudeau really does appear to have been kept out of the loop.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/political-opinion/2020/07/22/blinded-by-his-own-privilege-bill-morneau-is-painfully-out-of-touch-with-canadians.html

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has a parallel history of family ties with the [WE] organization.

It was against that backdrop that Morneau and Trudeau spoke by phone one evening in early April to hash out their thoughts on how to help students and youth in the pandemic. The conversation, Morneau said, turned to volunteering and service — long a personal interest for Trudeau, who had taken part in the Katimavik youth corps formed by his father, eventually headed up the organization and made no secret of longing for its revival.


Obviously there's no actual wrongdoing here. This isn't money laundering, or fraud, or "corruption" (a vague term carrying no legal standing just like "collusion" in the Trump impeachment trial), it's just "political optics" in the age of pandemic pitchfork populism. And it certainly isn't any of the other perverse things that QAnon types like the gate-crashing sausage maker want to frame it as, based on a twisted, Clintonesque "Pizzagate" conspiracy theory about nonprofit organizations and Trudeau the earnest schoolteacher. As Scheer once again made noises about a few weeks ago, just like he did when he floated WK's Grey Point Academy nonsense during the campaign, in his dog-whistling message on P&P where he said that "access to youth" is how Trudeau stands to benefit. There is a criminally unreported and disturbing underbelly narrative taking shape on social media, about Trudeau as a modern-day Socrates deserving a draconian punishment for corrupting the Athenian Canadian youth.

But the question now is whether Trudeau sacrifices his otherwise capable finance minister -- on the verge of a second wave and a post-pandemic recession -- for the sake of "political optics". The immediate instinct would be yes, but then there's the question of opening a Pandora's box. In other words, particularly considering Scheer's accusatory inquisition attempting to divide cabinet, if the Liberals take the bait and ditch Morneau, what other "scandals" might get sprung in bad faith centering around the rest of his cabinet ministers, including Freeland herself?

Judging by the trial balloon about Champagne's mortgage in the lead-up to the UNSC vote, the latest foofaraw about the Governor-General, and more attacks on the integrity of the public service, one would surmise that Morneau would not be the last casualty of an opposition- and media-led scorched-earth campaign against not only the Liberal government but the institutions of government themselves, all the while proclaiming to be defenders of democracy. I will say that only one thing is certain right now: much like Mary Dawson, Andrew Scheer is clearly hell-bent on going out with a bang.

Simon said...

Hi Rumleyfips....I have yet to watch a minute of that kangaroo court. I’m trying to stay as relaxed as possible in the midst of the pandemic and not lose my temper. But yes, it’s good that Canadians can see and hear from civil servants because they get no credit but have done a helluva a job. Which is another reason I hate this Con/NDP circus. We had a pretty good Team Canada going, and those bastards are trying to ruin it...

Simon said...

Hi Jackie....I can’t forget the pandemic, it haunts me day and night, it has sent my normal blogging life into a state of confusion, where I start a post but can’t get off the couch to finish it. And of course as I told Rumleyfips it’s the main reason this WEgate nonsense Drives me wild. As for the NDP I could never hate them more than the Cons. I am just terribly disappointed that Singh seems to have inherited all the bad habits of angry Tom Mulcair. You know, forget about making the NDP an exciting left-wing party and just focus on going after Justin Trudeau.. It’s pathetic...

Simon said...

Hi Ottlib....

"The reason why the polls are not moving is because no one besides those who already hate the PM and the Liberals care about this issue. It is summer time, when most Canadians pay even less attention to politics than usual. It is also a summer time during a global pandemic. The mood seems to be that a second wave is expected in the Fall so people are trying to squeeze as much fun time out of the summer as they can and that has enhanced their lack of interest in politics."

Yes, I think that sums it up nicely. I wondered whether the pandemic confinement of so many would boost the ratings of shows like Power and politics. But it seems that although the Cons, the DipperCons, and the mariachi Con media are screaming like banshees and demanding that Trudeau and Morneau resign, their pleas are falling on deaf ears.
They know the difference between the doers and the screamers, and are more interested in the battle against a monstrous pandemic that could kill them and/or the ones they love.
The government needs to focus on the pandemic and the economic recovery, and the opposition should stop playing cheap political games...

Simon said...

Hi RT...Yes,what's so depressing about these fake scandals is that they happen again and again, and our grubby mediocre Con media uses the same techniques over and over again. Blowing up little mistakes, using them to smear the entire Liberal government, and exhibiting a mass bias that is practically totalitarian. There is a Con media problem in Britain, that is so blatant it's almost beyond belief. But most Canadians don't seem to understand what it can do to a country and its democracy. At best it distorts and confuses everything, at worst it's fatal...