tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post3831165030338265266..comments2024-03-03T17:01:57.876-05:00Comments on Montreal Simon: Why Do So Many Canadians Hate the Occupiers?Simonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-73086018629617046312012-05-25T02:24:46.930-04:002012-05-25T02:24:46.930-04:00I guess I agree but what are all the protesters go...I guess I agree but what are all the protesters going to do if they achieve their goal? It's like the hippies, everyone has different ideas of what to do at the end. The occupy movement will disband and in future times be looked on with 'You know, Johnny, I was one of them once' kind of nostalgia. The movement will never accomplish its goals because aside from stopping corruption, has none. It is without a leader and leaderless movements tend to fail.Tatiana Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06686799267575235008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-61901550940603400062011-11-15T00:47:28.644-05:002011-11-15T00:47:28.644-05:00I know tons of young people in their 20's from...I know tons of young people in their 20's from all over Canada making very good money here. But of course, these protesters are against the Oil Sands.....oops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-12463869364702171432011-11-14T04:30:57.309-05:002011-11-14T04:30:57.309-05:00October 15th was a fabulous experience,nation wide...October 15th was a fabulous experience,nation wide.<br />i went to the Occupy Victoria event.<br />So many people all ages and middle class to lower to the unemployed.<br />The General assembly was engaging.<br />A high energy day.<br />But the next week, the tents went up and the word was out.<br />Free food too.<br />Whenever the tents go up, the energy goes down.<br />I quickly emailed Occupy Vancouver about the problems that will develop with the tents and camping, urging them to fold them, but maintain the food/medic tent and hold the GAs t strategic times.<br />I knew if I went over, I could never<br />achieve consensus tho.<br />We all see the homeless eveyday, with or without Occupy.<br />And we have been there and done that with homeless tenting.<br />Better to take issues one ny one, and have speakers and noonhour/weekend GAs<br />But by now,the nergy has waned ,dissipated and there is disappointment.<br />But hey, Naomi Klein and Bill McGib claim that Occupy helped with the pipeline delay decisionOemissionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15052778663890940687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-89486316519952236022011-11-13T23:53:11.453-05:002011-11-13T23:53:11.453-05:00hi anonymous...I agree with you. I find the way so...hi anonymous...I agree with you. I find the way some Canadians judge young people in this country callous and cruel. Youth unemployment is a big problem because all the good jobs, especially for working class kids, have been exported. And many of the jobs that remain are temporary ones, with short hours and low pay.<br />As you point out, youth unemployment rates in some parts of Europe are absolutely frightening. But they are also growing in this country and that will cause problems later...Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-22895612751261434902011-11-13T23:47:57.814-05:002011-11-13T23:47:57.814-05:00hi Thwap...I'm afraid I have to agree with you...hi Thwap...I'm afraid I have to agree with you. I know there are problems in the movement, but this country should be big enough to accomodate us all. And all I'm asking people is to visit an Occupy camp if they can, before they judge the occupiers so harshly...Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-69493942637423830822011-11-13T23:45:48.135-05:002011-11-13T23:45:48.135-05:00hi Rev Effect...I'm afraid you're right, o...hi Rev Effect...I'm afraid you're right, our MSM media may occasionally rise to the occasion. But when corporate interests they all tilt one way like the leaning Tower of Pisa. And since so many Canadians are easily fooled, and cranky, it's not a pretty picture.<br />As for the Occupy Canada movement I think I agree with you. They have planted some great seeds, but now it's time to water them, and watch them grow in new directions.<br />Finally, concerning the idea of a forum, I think I would be the one who would have to be watered, because the very thought makes me wilt eh? I'm terrible at answering comments and e-mails promptly AND I'm lazy. So what more can I say? ;)Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-12778137101933185672011-11-12T16:15:58.111-05:002011-11-12T16:15:58.111-05:00Uhuh. Scammers and slackers. So they scammed more ...Uhuh. Scammers and slackers. So they scammed more from society than the fine folks in Wall Street and high finance? I think not.<br /><br />Slackers? So John Doyle's rockstars of "capitalism" work harder than <a href="http://www.sabinabecker.com/2011/11/quotable-george-monbiot-on-wealth.html" rel="nofollow">women in Africa</a>? And what are the "slackers" to do since youth unemployment is so dreadfully high? It can't be that they don't want to work: those people aren't included in the unemployment numbers.<br /><br />If there were only one or two "slackers", then maybe it's their fault as individuals. But when it is indeed a large percentage of the population, media types can't honestly get away with that nonsense argument (though they spin and spin and do it anyways). 70% of young adults in Italy, and many in the UK and Canada, all simultaneously and individually decided to act this way? No. Something larger is at fault. Something in society is dreadfully unhealthy. And these "journalists" dare blame those forced to grow up in and comply with this sick society, as kids, for that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-83384360497844692762011-11-12T09:09:29.970-05:002011-11-12T09:09:29.970-05:00I just said at "Northern Reflections" th...I just said at "Northern Reflections" that almost all the criticisms of the Occupy movement have their origins in either stupidity, ignorance, or fraud.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-32252502567630176102011-11-12T08:21:38.875-05:002011-11-12T08:21:38.875-05:00Unfortunately we have a great enemy in this countr...Unfortunately we have a great enemy in this country, even more so than the Cons themselves, and that's the incredibly biased mainstream media. Anything remotely smelling of dissent is vilified without mercy. Combined with the majority of the Canadian public being so fickle and easily manipulated, it makes for a difficult environment for progressive change.<br /><br />As far as the Occupy protests go, I'm on the fence right now tbh. I'm losing a bit of faith in how effective they will be in Canada in their current form. The evictions in London seem to have started the domino's falling. Personally, I think some changes in strategy should be looked at. I believe the bourgeoisie are much more inclined to take notice when they think their money is at stake.<br /><br />btw Simon, you should start a forum! I think your articles would spawn a lot of great discussions.Rev Effectnoreply@blogger.com