tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post1345609584848042931..comments2024-03-03T17:01:57.876-05:00Comments on Montreal Simon: How Stephen Harper Screwed the NDP AND HimselfSimonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-8844580923045086192014-11-24T22:14:33.924-05:002014-11-24T22:14:33.924-05:00then there is this: each voter goes into the boot...then there is this: each voter goes into the booth, thinking, ABC, can't get over the fighting between the NDP and Liberals, oh hell I'm going to protest and vote Green. The morning after the election one small woman will wake up and say, I am now the P.M. of Canada and this country will survive. <br /><br />Hey I can dream can't I?e.a.f.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-29238711996222371592014-11-23T23:53:22.252-05:002014-11-23T23:53:22.252-05:00...but Simon... the 40% of eligible voters who did......but Simon... the 40% of eligible voters who did not vote democratically accepted whoever the voting majority preferred for PM of all of Canada... and that was the Harper Conservatives who only won 24% of the vote of 'eligible' voter (while the NDP won 18% and the Liberals only got 12%)!!!<br /><br />So... the Harper Conservatives directly won 24% of the vote PLUS indirectly the 40% who did not vote ... for a grand total of 24 + 40 = 64% acceptance ..... and the losing Libs and Dips cannot claim any part of the 40% who did not vote, nor can you prorate the 40% amongst the other parties.... only the Conservatives can claim the 40%... AND THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN'T DENY ...!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-23888713100896079802014-11-23T05:59:26.330-05:002014-11-23T05:59:26.330-05:00hi Anne...I don't disagree with you, but it wi...hi Anne...I don't disagree with you, but it will never happen until the Cons are defeated, and we can put pressure on a progressive government or a coalition, to bring about that change....Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-45994601592506727692014-11-23T05:57:36.453-05:002014-11-23T05:57:36.453-05:00hi Ray...I never forget that and believe it drives...hi Ray...I never forget that and believe it drives me CRAZY to think that we are more than them, but because we are divided and they are not, they get to rule us. At a time like this one, with the kind of enemy we face, its absolute insanity...Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-71332298260236695552014-11-23T05:53:16.963-05:002014-11-23T05:53:16.963-05:00hi David....thanks for that link. Vote swapping ce...hi David....thanks for that link. Vote swapping certainly sounds like something worth exploring. As you know I'm all in favour of the progressive parties working together to defeat the Cons, and I dream of the day when progressives will be united. Or at least that I don't die before that happens. ;)<br />But yeah, any ideas that can help us break the rut we're in are only too welcome...Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-82223896262544518842014-11-23T05:51:29.981-05:002014-11-23T05:51:29.981-05:00I love the fact Simon that Harper hid in a closet ...I love the fact Simon that Harper hid in a closet something unfortunately lost on most Canadians. They should see their leader as a fearful coward who starts wars dis's vets and is a sneering potbellied pig.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17868396408359306954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-52526646692045271462014-11-22T21:48:11.264-05:002014-11-22T21:48:11.264-05:00Elections in Canada are a tribute to a dysfunction...Elections in Canada are a tribute to a dysfunctional electoral system, that's what. We need PR.Anne Petersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03032284497688041266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-72840733632984525932014-11-22T20:57:25.799-05:002014-11-22T20:57:25.799-05:00It is important to remember that 2/3 of Canadians ...It is important to remember that 2/3 of Canadians who actually voted in the last election . . . . voted AGAINST the Harper Conservative Reform Alliance Party. Democracy? . . . not in any sense of the word. Elections in Canada are a tribute to ignorance.Ray Blessinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15011427121566958729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-61821004348602259272014-11-22T19:20:04.855-05:002014-11-22T19:20:04.855-05:00The Honest Mountie - Vote Swapping
https://www.you...The Honest Mountie - Vote Swapping<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA75DyhIVsoDavidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09630890163958807048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-7592685800468154652014-11-22T18:35:53.834-05:002014-11-22T18:35:53.834-05:00hi Steve....We are living in dangerous times, and ...hi Steve....We are living in dangerous times, and anything could happen. But I too cling to the hope that most Canadians want to get rid of that ghastly leader and his bully regime. And will do whatever it takes to get rid of them. Having three progressive parties facing a united Con party makes everything more difficult. But hopefully decency and sanity will prevail...Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-53033771909536373102014-11-22T18:32:34.612-05:002014-11-22T18:32:34.612-05:00hi Matt...I'm not choosing sides, I am one of ...hi Matt...I'm not choosing sides, I am one of those Anyone But Harper guys. And I didn't have time to elaborate on that last hopeful thought. So for now all I'll say is this: in normal political times what you say is all true, and still most likely to happen. But people tend to forget that the reason for Quebec's so-called "Orange Wave" wasn't that Quebecers suddenly fell in love with Jack Layton. It was because they thought that with Ignatieff flagging, the NDP was their best chance to stop Harper. And what I'm saying is that faced with a similar situation it could happen again and this time all over Canada. Time will tell if I'm right, but don't be surprised if it does happen. For at this point I think that for many Canadians getting rid of the Harper regime is the only thing that matters, and they won't be too fussy about that happens...Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-71244231076130523632014-11-22T17:09:55.295-05:002014-11-22T17:09:55.295-05:00I am a student of history. I admit it, In fact eve...I am a student of history. I admit it, In fact everyone in in the school. History has a way of defeating bullies. I hope Harper is one of those. In fact i do not want to see him merely defeated, I want to see him humiluated like GWB. Harper has done nothing like ruining the worlds economy or waging war in the sand, but still he is a target for the narrow audiunce that had to grovel beneath his <a href="http://thinkingaboot.blogspot.ca/2014/11/canadian-civilians-fighting-isis.html" rel="nofollow">apoglopictc gaze </a>for half a dozen years.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162783936999869984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-9602782805316433452014-11-22T16:41:45.979-05:002014-11-22T16:41:45.979-05:00Not bad analysis. Except for this:
"So if ...Not bad analysis. Except for this: <br /><br />"So if Justin Trudeau should flag, their support will flow to Mulcair. And we who hate Harper because we love this country, can't lose."<br /><br />If Trudeau flags, Mulcair goes back from 18% to 25%, that helps Harper only. And we progressives lose. The NDP will never win against Harper, they'll either deny the Liberals a victory or even worse push them to third place and hand the Tories a majority like they did in 2011 with a better leader. <br /><br />No it's best if the NDP collapse back to where they've traditionally been in the mid-teens. They can't actually beat Conservatives, so I'm happy to stick with the Liberals who at least can. Matt Guerinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06307050875070980292noreply@blogger.com