tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post1179363075916810566..comments2024-03-03T17:01:57.876-05:00Comments on Montreal Simon: Why A Vote For The NDP Is A Vote For The ConsSimonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-35107607363067627982021-09-21T18:21:54.587-04:002021-09-21T18:21:54.587-04:00Spicy gossip on the subject of the champagne broci...Spicy gossip on the subject of the champagne brocialist --<br /><br />https://twitter.com/krismeloche/status/1440416421285040138<br /><br /><i>I just heard a report on the CBC that a major NDP organizer stated Jagmeet Singh spent his campaign funding branding himself...this person says its more about Singh than a political movement...</i><br /><br />It was the president of the York-Simcoe NDP EDA, Jessa McLean<br /><br />https://twitter.com/JessaMcLeanNDP/status/1440360899949182976<br /><br /><i>NDP federal council took the rebates from the local Ridings and poured it all into Jagmeet Singh's image and campaign. We invested nothing in the ground. Two elections : Down 11 seats. PPC made more gains than us. We’re not a movement. We’re an ad campaign.</i><br /><br />Read down the thread. This person is NOT happy, and if others feel like she does, Jagmeet may end up having to go back to his old job as a... um, DJ and "influencer".<br /><br />And people say Trudeau never had a real job and is self(ie) obsessed and indulgent. At least he already had a brand and didn't rob from the Liberal coffers to pump vanity PR. Remind me again why the NDP exists?<br /><br />Maybe this election wasn't about nothing at all. Maybe it was exactly what needed to happen for the vapid opposition to destroy itself.Jackie Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05221859743498420491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-62995034157780453162021-09-21T18:16:06.313-04:002021-09-21T18:16:06.313-04:00I am looking forward to Perrie Penis or Wine taste...I am looking forward to Perrie Penis or Wine taster as the leader of the op, how do you spell majority.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162783936999869984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-32804667637489273072021-09-21T18:14:10.676-04:002021-09-21T18:14:10.676-04:00No matter what angle you look at it from this was ...No matter what angle you look at it from this was a victory for JT and the Liberal partyStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162783936999869984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-70558622948587730652021-09-21T16:08:32.151-04:002021-09-21T16:08:32.151-04:00They will not axe J.T..
Gerald Butts was asked abo...They will not axe J.T..<br />Gerald Butts was asked about this and he basically said (paraphrasing) "Well leaders are leaders until the voters vote them out."<br />If Justin Trudedau is defeated at the polls, he will walk away; I know that P.J. Fournier and MSM are salvating at new leaders, but I can't see it LPC side, and NDP seems to stay with Sing for the foreseeable future.<br />With O'Toole the only remaining question mark, we'll see, but they likely won't knife him when he just said he wants to fight another election within a year and half...<br /><br />So now we have stability, and I am hearing "four years" more and more. <br />It looks like we will have our "Justin national" as we call him here in QC, until 2025 and we may see his dreams of mostly electric vehicles come true at last.<br />Pierre D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-48915495970140904352021-09-21T12:21:11.115-04:002021-09-21T12:21:11.115-04:00I promised Simon I'd put my blog back up if th...I promised Simon I'd put my <a href="https://missfuddleduddle.blogspot.com/2021/09/coming-out-of-dark.html" rel="nofollow">blog back up</a> if the Liberals won and I did. Shameless self-promo incoming.<br /><br />Your key takeaway, from a Canada politics junkie who hails from the home of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Christmas_Tree" rel="nofollow">Halifax Christmas tree</a>. On the subject of whether the Liberals should knife Trudeau (spoiler: they damn well shouldn't and they'd be stupid if they tried)<br /><br /><i>Apologies for the mixed sports metaphor, but if you ask me (and no one has), for the Liberals to turf Trudeau fils after he won them a hat trick, even though the past two results haven't been as stellar as they might have wanted, would be like firing Tom Brady because he won two Super Bowls by a field goal rather than a blowout. Which is kinda what Bill Belichick did, and how's that working out for him?</i><br /><br />A ring is a ring, isn't it? Trudeau is a Capricorn. Trudeau is the GOAT.Jackie Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05221859743498420491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-69082394632008569242021-09-21T11:36:25.503-04:002021-09-21T11:36:25.503-04:00The best part is that now the CPC are harping on t...The best part is that <i>now</i> the CPC are harping on the popular vote, when they mocked Hillary Clinton supporters for the same statements. Pure claptrap, they know they are losers for the foreseeable future and they are hanging on to something, I guess.<br /><br />I think my favourite moment was CBC had Gerald (Gerry) Butts and Lisa Raitt on to discuss the election...<br /><br />Lisa: "The Liberals won when they went hard after the gun lobby."<br />Gerald: "Well, we don't want assault weapons in the streets of Toronto, right?"<br />Lisa: "That isn't what I said at all!" and she was <b>fuming</b> and it wsa glorious!<br /><br />And the LPC member in Vancouver_Grandville is up 34 (!) votes up on the NDP with 1 ballot box to open! Oh, if the LPC won there it would be a <i>glorious</i> comeuppance for Jody Wilson-Raybould. Hahaha!<br /><br />Pierre D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-28733595956888157402021-09-21T02:31:48.740-04:002021-09-21T02:31:48.740-04:00Hi Jackie...We did it indeed. And how sweet it is....Hi Jackie...We did it indeed. And how sweet it is. Some Cons and the Con media were trying to play down Trudeau's victory, claiming that nothing much had changed. Or that nobody wanted the election. But a win is a win is a win. And after the way the Cons and their NDP stooges behaved it's a huge victory. It has allowed us to turn over some rocks and see the Con bugs wriggling away, and we have stopped O'Toole's Harperite agenda dead. Trudeau seems up to the challenge of what lies ahead, and after all we have been through we have all earned the right to relax. At last.....Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-65545970435729220942021-09-21T02:24:21.083-04:002021-09-21T02:24:21.083-04:00Hi Pierre...O'Toole's loser speech was abs...Hi Pierre...O'Toole's loser speech was absolutely disgusting. He showed absolutely no class, and is now spinning another big lie, claiming that Trudeau is planning to hold another election in 18 months. The idea is no doubt a crude attempt to head off anybody who might be tempted to replace. I hope it fails miserably, and am looking forward to seeing the mail-in ballots inflating the Liberal numbers...Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-73399905754621695122021-09-21T02:20:28.668-04:002021-09-21T02:20:28.668-04:00Hi JD...Inviting Saint Jody on an election panel i...Hi JD...Inviting Saint Jody on an election panel is about as low as you can go. All it does is give her a chance to spew her anti-Trudeau bile, and flog her trashy book. But it does, yet again, make it clear how low the Con media has fallen. Have they no shame?Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-61567587447344185272021-09-21T02:07:40.713-04:002021-09-21T02:07:40.713-04:00Anon@2:45 checking in. Status quo it is. Good nigh...Anon@2:45 checking in. Status quo it is. Good night.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-77309142452104230532021-09-20T23:34:32.342-04:002021-09-20T23:34:32.342-04:00Good guys win and mail-in ballots could still make...Good guys win and mail-in ballots could still make a majority.<br />See ya O'Toole!<br />Pierre D.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-77240245137428751202021-09-20T23:05:51.548-04:002021-09-20T23:05:51.548-04:00We did it. Oh, I'm so happy.
Back to where we...We did it. Oh, I'm so happy.<br /><br />Back to where we started, but hey, I'll take it. Tool is going to be knifed and Jagmeet might be too. Butts doesn't think this is JT's swan song so... I'm just going to breathe a sigh of relief for right now.<br /><br />I love you guys. I love Canada right now. I love Justin.<br /><br />Gonna pop the bubbly -- a big ol' bottle of Canada Dry.<br /><br />"Ain't nothin' better... we beat the odds together..."<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZH-emehxAJackie Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05221859743498420491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-60149975933351396052021-09-20T22:06:22.584-04:002021-09-20T22:06:22.584-04:00OMG! I was checking CTV for the latest numbers at ...OMG! I was checking CTV for the latest numbers at 9:40PM and there she was, JWR on their commenters panel. I wonder who their western commenter will be, Ezra? What a joke. I'm now on CBC.<br />JDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-58758515641784859382021-09-20T19:35:30.331-04:002021-09-20T19:35:30.331-04:00Hi Jackie…. As I tried to say in my post I too am ...Hi Jackie…. As I tried to say in my post I too am deeply disturbed by Jagmeet’s Singh behaviour. I have watched with dismay as the Cons turned our politics into a jungle, where lying is normalized, and their opponents are smeared over and over again. So seeing Singh using the same tactics really bothers me. His hatred for Trudeau is so great it has made me wonder whether he is all there, and his latest Tik Tok video has only deepened my concern. If you’ve read my blog over the years you will know that I have objected to the American-style politics that Stephen Harper imported from the Republican world. Quite apart from their policies I believe their bullying behaviour is an existential threat to this country and its values. So what explains Singh’s behaviour? I think it’s just another example of macho bullshit. He has studied martial arts and think he’s still in the ring. Pathetic….Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-72522107168899804602021-09-20T15:27:46.615-04:002021-09-20T15:27:46.615-04:00Cathie -
I suspect things went sour between Singh...Cathie -<br /><br />I suspect things went sour between Singh and Trudeau right after the 2019 election, when Singh pushed to have a formal coalition and Trudeau rebuffed him. Singh is power-hungry and has delusions of grandeur that he seriously can become prime minister. The NDP cult enables this, in fact Tom Parkin was out on Twitter yesterday saying that he could, "just not immediately after Monday".<br /><br />The long game objective is to diminish the Liberals into oblivion with a Conservative government that would see Trudeau out, and force polarization around the anti-Tory vote being the far left party, with the centre-left being ground up to nothing. That was Jack's gamble just as it was Bernie's and the original antifa in Germany. As I've mentioned on this board before, look up the phrase "Nach Hitler, Uns" or "After Hitler, us." See also The Walrus "Fake Left, Go Right."<br /><br />Plan B is to force a coalition government whereby the person leading the party that wins the most seats is not necessarily who becomes the PM. You see this all the time in European countries that use PR. Far from being "democratic," PR coalitions often result with bizarre backroom deals like the one you see in Israel, where Bennett and Naftali made an agreement to actually swap the role after two years.<br /><br />This IMHO is Singh's gambit, as has been pushed for by the NDP membership or backroom strategists. They all viscerally hate Trudeau for eating their lunch policy-wise and for "stealing" the brass ring in 2015. They are desperate to push their way through to the halls of power in the PMO and they only have a certain set of levers (unprecedented in Canada) they feel they can do it with.<br /><br />They don't really care about progressive policies, not as long as it's Liberals implementing them while the NDP sinks further into irrelevance. They're willing to make all kinds of deals with the devil out of their hatred of Trudeau. Like you I get the sense that the two men do not like each other very much. Singh's animus is borne of narcissistic jealousy, however. Trudeau's is more principled, in other words why are you lying about us and why are you threatening to throw everything away and bring harm to Canadians for partisan gains?<br /><br />Also, on a personal level I can't see any reason why Trudeau would get along with Singh after the unconscionable attacks that Angus made against Margaret, which Singh implicitly condoned by not reining him in. If Trudeau wins another term and it's a minority, he may go along to get along in hopes of getting things passed (assuming the NDP doesn't obstruct again), because he genuinely wants to see progressive policies be implemented. But the NDP's personal hatred of all things Trudeau has poisoned the well for possibly generations to come. We saw how he reacted, and rightly so, to the vicious thugs who made unrepeatable heckles toward Sophie: "They went after my family." I could be wrong but it would not surprise me if he feels similar sentiments towards the parliamentary gravel-throwers of the NDP.Jackie Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05221859743498420491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-12092675284079351442021-09-20T14:46:09.488-04:002021-09-20T14:46:09.488-04:00Please Canada, hear it out from a Democratic Party...Please Canada, hear it out from a Democratic Party voter since 2004:<br /><br /><b><i>GO VOTE LIBERAL.</i></b><br /><br />Listen to your heart before you tell him goodbye.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCC_b5WHLX0<br /><br />Love you guys. Love to Justin and the fam too.Jackie Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05221859743498420491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-71945069615544158962021-09-20T13:58:28.108-04:002021-09-20T13:58:28.108-04:00I have been increasingly disturbed by the level of...I have been increasingly disturbed by the level of vitriol that Singh is showing toward Trudeau - it's very personal for him, beyond politics, almost a jilted lover level.<br />Just an irrelevant aside, but I have wondered, actually, whether there have been some personal exchanges between the two men, where maybe Singh asked for a cabinet seat in exchange for NDP support and Trudeau brushed it off because he knew that Singh couldn't possibly guarantee the votes of the NDP caucus, not with people like Charlie Angus involved. I have also wondered whether there was some kind of deal between Singh and O'Toole, also for NDP support, because Singh doesn't seem to have a single negative thing to say about O'Toole at all.<br />I think Singh has essentially caved today by saying the NDP will support the party that agrees to tax the rich - no one could ever believe that the Cons would do this, and, as Dale Smith notes, the Liberals can just say they will "work on" it for the next two years. <br />Singh's TikTok shower stunts and tarmac handstands are getting really bizarre - though I'm old so maybe I just don't get it.Cathie from Canadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11418899090537597360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-88492757927937014472021-09-20T11:58:46.906-04:002021-09-20T11:58:46.906-04:00Election day. Regardless of the outcome, hopefully...Election day. Regardless of the outcome, hopefully the turmoil will create an opportunity for Karma to strike and sweep the Con media and their stooges to the dustbin of history. For the past 5 years the fake propaganda machine not only targeted Trudeau but anyone associated with him, his family, co-workers, friends, charities, etc. The stooges like Singh are not even smart enough to realize they are much more vulnerable than Trudeau and will only be kept around as examples of who not to vote for once the Liberals are dispatched. Its a big hope but sometimes Karma strikes in unexpected ways!<br /><br />RTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-27616073302510849552021-09-20T10:56:54.121-04:002021-09-20T10:56:54.121-04:00Hi Jackie….Thank you for your great contributions ...Hi Jackie….Thank you for your great contributions to this blog’s coverage of the election campaign. Your energy and commitment to the fight against the far right should inspire us all. Despite all that polling info I still can’t be sure you is going to win. But irrespective of the result the campaign is has done great damage to the Cons and their NDP stooges, and we will win the war. And don’t worry Seb and I and two of our friends will be heading off to vote soon, and are looking forward to helping to give O’Toole the boot, like we did to Harper and Scheer . Forward and onward! !!!<br /><br />Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-51738521433566641942021-09-20T10:39:10.117-04:002021-09-20T10:39:10.117-04:00Hi MyWorld1916….The Bloc is a third rate party of ...Hi MyWorld1916….The Bloc is a third rate party of separatist racists, and we have to thank Shachi Kurl for rubbing life back not their grubby leader Blanchet. Calling Quebecers racists was an appalling mistake which will galvanize the chronically insecure in my beloved province for at least a week or two. As I’m sure you know, it has been that way for a long time, and probably won’t change until the old bitter generation is finally dead and buried, and a new generation takes over….Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-87087819660285154492021-09-20T10:28:54.901-04:002021-09-20T10:28:54.901-04:00Hi anon@9:21PM….You can call it the “Liberal fear ...Hi anon@9:21PM….You can call it the “Liberal fear machine” but I call it the NDP whining machine,. For anyone who could vote for the Con man Jagmeet Singh after reading Dale Smith’s excellent report on all his lies and inventions can only be called a whiner or a loser. I understand why your feeling down, but you fail to accept reality. Vote splitting is a real threat that could elect Cons, and the real problem is that try as they might, the NDP can’t rise beyond its third party status and so will always be more spoiler than anything else, and a gift to the Cons.. Sorry….Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309809679331128837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-33413750723675745632021-09-19T23:20:38.286-04:002021-09-19T23:20:38.286-04:00Anon, Jack Layton's "legacy" was Ste...Anon, Jack Layton's "legacy" was Stephen Harper. Period. Just like Bernie Sanders' legacy was Donald Trump.<br /><br />How good of you as a "progressive" to laud the man who saddled Canada with ten years of the Reign of Error. If any statues ought to be toppled, it's that man and his stupid bicycle. Rest in piss, Mal Jack.<br /><br />Dippers don't really want progress. They want purity and sabotage. You're proud to cast a vote for the guy who posted a video of him in the shower? What do you think the response would be if Trudeau did that? And people have the damn nerve to call *him* a creep!<br /><br />I hope Singh underperforms massively tomorrow and gets turfed such that the NDP have themselves a civil war that would burn them to the ground. Sadly I don't think they will because they're an empty cult of personality just like the vapid "Squad" they stan for so much.<br /><br />The dirtbag left are scum and the DipperCons and Bernie Squad can FOAD for all I care. I am done giving them the benefit of the doubt.Jackie Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05221859743498420491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-76782436079237393562021-09-19T22:34:06.771-04:002021-09-19T22:34:06.771-04:00In my riding, if it weren't for the NDP siphon...In my riding, if it weren't for the NDP siphoning left wing votes from the Liberals, the Liberals would have easily won the last 2 elections. The NDP have never had a hope in hell of winning my riding and I can guarantee that this scenario plays out in many ridings in the east. So again I'll state as Simon has, a vote for the NDP is a vote for the tool and right now the tool's counting on all the useful idiot votes he can get.<br />JDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-43032043673749040072021-09-19T22:17:08.332-04:002021-09-19T22:17:08.332-04:00Final polling update:
Frank's highly anticipa...Final polling update:<br /><br />Frank's highly anticipated seat projection. Liberals 5 short but plausible to get there.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/VoiceOfFranky/status/1439771353792630784<br /><br />Mainstreet a little lower on the LPC count but similar to Frank's.<br /><br />https://twitter.com/FarAndWide/status/1439765402805018630<br /><br />Research Co final poll has tied toplines but Liberals ahead in the most seat-rich provinces (ON, QC, ATL).<br /><br />https://researchco.ca/2021/09/19/elxn44-final/<br /><br />Forum (penultimate?) poll calls for an LPC minority despite absolutely bizarre regionals. Including 0.5% Bloc support in *Ontario*. WTF. Has PPC at 10% though, so the Max Factor is real and not just... made up.<br /><br />Nanos one-day sample: National toplines within the MOE but Liberals ahead. NDP drop and PPC rise. Pay attention to the ranges of possibility and the undecideds (per Ottlib's comment). Tweeted out here:<br /><br />https://twitter.com/niknanos/status/1439771355453562885?s=20<br /><br />Evan Scrimshaw has the Liberals seven short. Right between Mainstreet and Frank (and Polly and the NDP insider).<br /><br />https://twitter.com/EScrimshaw/status/1439774529379786754<br /><br />Reminder: Polly the A.I. called the Liberals two short and there is a tweep claiming to have high-up connections with the NDP showing internals similar to Polly and Frank.<br /><br />This is all encouraging but it means nothing if Liberals don't GET OUT THERE AND VOTE!Jackie Bluehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05221859743498420491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23253782.post-54177417739591062682021-09-19T21:40:20.580-04:002021-09-19T21:40:20.580-04:00Yves Francois Blanchet is one biggest pain in the ...Yves Francois Blanchet is one biggest pain in the neck than O'Toole for some reason. Keep in mind that in situations like the english debate where he was called 'racist' is just another example that if you don't vote for him, you're with the 'federal crooks' and no true loyal quebecer with its history and culture. As if the Bloc is the only party allowed to be angry at anything Quebec bashing related, ever since the battle of 'Les Plaines d'Abraham'. Thus monopolising the issues with every right! I just hope the electorat will remember for what they voted for during his mistakes from the 'Troisième Lien' in Quebec city to when he did not let Badawi's wife speak first at a question!Myworld1916https://www.blogger.com/profile/14770156473998149287noreply@blogger.com